And also Sept.11th and the number 11
"By July 2001 the danger of full-scale US intervention will be great, when not only does Jupiter return to Gemini-Cancer, but stationary Mars and Pluto both oppose Saturn across the horizon (Ascendant-Descendant axis) of the US horoscope (the middle of signs Sagittarius and Gemini). What a way to start a millennium! Uncle Sam will unsheath his sword again for another "just cause," as he comes up with yet another good reason to pounce on his neighbors. Will it be Cuba this time, or Mexico? Perhaps Peru and Colombia, where the drug trade still causes hangovers for Uncle Sam. Meanwhile there will also be the Balkan and Middle Eastern messes to straighten out. "
In my book Horoscope for the New Millennium (1997), on page 266, I wrote:
"Whoever is elected in 2000 will also face foreign challenges immediately, since it looks like Uncle Sam will be gearing up for war in the fall of 2000. What a way to start a Millennium! Conflicts that exploded in 1999, such as those in Russia, Iran, Mexico, or the Balkans will probably come to a head in 2001....Intensive diplomatic efforts and minor interventions will try to head off trouble, especially in mid-September or early October 2000--- but then comes the combative Saturn-Pluto opposition in the summer of 2001, joined by a stationary Mars in July. These planets will oppose each other across the Ascendant and Descendant of the US chart. Uncle Sam will be feeling righteous again in a big way, eager to show other nations the truth. Religious issues and trade embargoes will be involved...."
There is no doubt, as I also told many people, that I predicted that America would go to war in the summer of 2001. I based that prediction on stationary Mars conjunct Pluto in Sagittarius, opposing Saturn in Gemini; two signs powerfully linked to the United States. That has now happened, since the Attack on America by Arab terrorists under the suspected leadership of Osama bin Laden on Sept.11, 2001 has been called "an act of war," and the president and secretary of state immediately declared in response a global war against the terrorists. Religious issues are involved, since the terrorists are religious fanatics and that is their motivation, and trade embargoes are being threatened (as well as groundings of air flights, of course)
What this event appears to show is both the success, and to some extent the failure, of my predictions. It shows the potential of astrology to foresee events of this magnitude, and the possibilities of warnings issued that could have helped prevent the disaster. We ignore astrological warnings at our peril. I was not specific enough, however, in my predictions, and in hindsight at least it is easy to see how I could have made my prediction better had I considered the situation more carefully.
On page 240, for example, I already linked the sign Sagittarius to airborne disasters and terrorism. The last major period of disasters and terrorism in the air was clearly the mid-1980s, when Uranus was in that sign. Now Pluto and Mars joined in that sign in July-August 2001, opposing Saturn; clearly a symbol of airborne war. It was also known that bin Laden was behind other events that I had already predicted (the embassy bombings in 1998, and World Trade Center bombings in 1993). But the idea of attacks sponsored by bin Laden using airplanes against American targets didn't occur to me.
On the other hand, it was certainly possible that this war could have turned out to be an American attack on Latin America, as I predicted might happen, since Sagittarius is linked to Latin nations as well as the USA; but this fortunately did not materialize (at least not yet). Nor have the current troubles in the Balkans (Macedonia) required US intervention, as I feared might happen. President Bush has taken a rather hands-off approach to foreign policy. This has meant fewer interventions, but it also means less sustained efforts for peace that might prevent future conflicts.
My reference to predicted events in the fall of 2000 seems clearly now to refer not only to the upsurge of violence in Palestine and Israel, but to bin Laden's attack on the USS Cole in October 2000 which should have been our wake up call. Note also that my article and book clearly explains that violent events tend to follow a Mars station (when Mars passes the earth and appears to stand still in the sky) usually a month or a month and a half afterward, and clearly this is what happened after late-July 2001, when Mars turned stationary in Sagittarius. Attacks are usually in the process of being organized at the exact time when Mars stations, and the actual event occurs soon afterward, within a month and a half. The appendix in my book lays out the evidence clearly for this pattern, and the patterns involving Saturn-Pluto, Mars-Saturn, and Jupiter; and the implications of all these patterns for what was in store in 2001 could not have been clearer.
It is also to be noted that the terrorists appear to have planned the Attack on America "for two years." It is a fact that on Sept. 11, 2001, Venus was in the exact eclipse degree of August 11, 1999, which Nostradamus used to predict "terrors in the air," and which I wrote about extensively in my book and on my web site as indicative of disasters and war. Could the Attack on America on Sept. 11, 2001 be more fallout from the "eclipse of doom" in August 1999, just as the election fiasco of November 2000 was?
However, the term "war on terrorism" is a euphemism that makes little sense in general. Any "wars" which the USA pursues against any country should have carefully-defined objectives, should deal only with those who attack or target the USA or its allies, and should not be pursued if other means short of war are workable. Meanwhile, we Americans should cooperate with other nations in apprehending and bringing to justice the members of Al Qaida or other terrorists who target the USA.
It is unusual, to say the least, for me to support an American war, or to support President Bush-- or any Republican president. But I did so initially, because this kind of attack against our country and anyone visiting here endangers public safety. It is not a matter of revenge, but of protecting the people. I totally agree with the president that the terrorists who attacked us must be put out of action and brought to justice, and that any government that continues defiantly to harbor or protect them must be considered hostile to the USA. It makes no sense to speak of "bringing the terrorists to justice," if no plan is implemented to actually apprehend and try them now, before they perpetrate further outrages against the people. If soldiers or governments cannot somehow be convinced to surrender these criminals, and instead continue to sponsor, harbor or protect them, then they must be defeated so that the terrorists can be apprehended. Defeat of the Taliban was a good step forward. But I am concerned that, despite many months, the Al Qaida leaders have not been captured.
Let us stay informed; we all must remember that war is an important question for our country, and that all views should be heard and respected regarding what is our best course of action. The world will support us, as long as we aim our efforts at destroying the mutual enemy, global terrorists, and not innocent civilians.
The Bush administration and Sec. Rumsfeld have said that they understood that attacking civilians would turn other peoples against us, and should be avoided. However, reports are surfacing that our bombing may have killed thousands of Afghan civilians, as many as 3,767. Professor Roberto Gonzalez of San Jose State University has written in the Open Forum of the San Francisco Chronicle that Professor Marc Herold of the University of New Hampshire compiled reports of these casualties from foreign sources. "The data," Gonzalez writes, "drawn from independent news sources and first-hand accounts, include: dates, locations, types of munitions used and sources. Much of it is based upon mainstream British, French and Indian press agencies such as the BBC and The India Times." This report has also been aired by Pacifica's Democracy Now! program. These reports have been ignored by American media, afraid of pressures from authorities and the public. We need to verify these reports, and act accordingly. We need to hold our president and government to account. If we are not allowed to know the facts by our corporate-dominated media, this is a threat to freedom here in this country.
Clearly, the USA was not careful enough about not killing and injuring civilians. Bombing may have been useful in defeating the Taliban and Al Qaida on the front lines, but if bombing was carried on too close to civilian areas, then it was careless, irresponsible and possibly criminal. Our bombs are not smart enough to take such risks. This can only lead to further resentment and anger against the USA, which could be exploited by further terrorists.
I doubt that President Bush, as some accuse, knew about the 9/11 attack and allowed it to happen, knowing it would benefit him politically. However, it is possible that he allowed conditions to happen which helped bring it about. Some reports suggest that his interest in the oil business may have contributed to our failure to stop the terrorists. Knowledge about Al Qaida's plans may have been given to the FBI, but there may have been a policy to squash this knowledge in order not to disrupt our friendship with oil-rich Saudi Arabia or disturb plans by US companies such as Enron to build a pipeline through Afghanistan. The people deserve to know the truth.
Where do we go after Afghanistan? We need to keep our objectives in mind. We do not need to attack and capture "all terrorists." Our target is not foreign terrorists who are fighting only against their own government or an "occupying" power. That would just be interfering in their quarrels. It is "the terrorist networks of global reach," as the president described them, who are attacking the USA and its allies, who need to be stopped.
For example, an unprovoked attack on Iraq now, without proof that they were instrumental in the 9/11 attack, would not be supported by other nations and would be very unwise. We have already carried out bombing against Iraq, and I doubt further bombing attacks would destroy their capabilities to wage biological, chemical or nuclear warfare, which is what we are most concerned about.
Patriotism is natural right now. We mourn the loss of Americans, attacked because they were Americans. Citizens of many other nations were also killed in this attack, murdered while they were carrying out "world trade." We Americans are also citizens of one world. Standing united for our country is right and proper, and measures must be taken to guard against terrorists. Let us hope that such measures, and such patriotic sentiments, are kept within the bounds of what is needed, and don't endanger our own liberties or our sense of unity with all our fellow humanity on one Earth. Some of the laws passed since Sept.11th, and some practices by our government, raise serious questions about our commitment to the civil liberties that make America worth defending in the first place.
We must not blame Muslims or Arabs in general for the Sept.11th attack. The culprits are people who are trained in a value system that is foreign to any religion, and dangerous to our freedom and way of life. I must note, however, that we often forget how karmically tied we are to the deep forces of evil and hatred that fester in the Middle East region. It comes out and bites us now every 11 years or so, distracting and diverting us from the things we want to do. It ended a hopeful period of renewal, revolution and earth-healing in 1990, and it snuffed out our youthful idealism in 1979-80. It killed a leader who could have renewed our nation in 1968. It is far more than just a matter of our support for Israel. Broadly defined, this region was also the source of the world wars, and of continuing troubles today (the Balkans). We must remember, though we often forget, that our own culture grew out of that region, and that much of our civilization today is the legacy of that civilization; one born in paradise, but which ate the fruit of the tree of knowledge, and gave us hierarchy, war, science, religion, and all the attendant ills which still haunt our civilization since its birth there 5000 years ago. Until we humans somehow can heal that part of the world, I fear, it will attack us again and again, and not allow us unimpeded to progress toward the new age of enlightenment we still believe is possible.
First, we must insist that Isreal and Palestine make peace. Currently, we are bankrolling the Isreali occupation of Palestine, and that is the chief excuse used by fanatics to preach hatred for America. The solutions to the problem are clear, and we must insist that the two parties carry them out if they want our continued support-- unless we want to continue to pay the price, which will be more terrorist attacks. First, put the Temple Mount in Jerusalem under international control as a landmark sacred to all peoples. Second, Isreal must vacate all other occupied lands and allow them to become the Palestinian State. Third, Palestine must stop insisting that Isreal take back all refugees. This would overwhelm them and create a defacto Palestinian state in Isreal, and Isreal can't agree to this. Palestinians who can afford it can, and often do, move to Isreal now. Fourth, Isreal must not build further Jewish settlements in Palestine, and they must either remove or relinquish control over all settlements to Palestinian control. Free immigration could be allowed to Palestine as well. During the time these arrangements are negotiated, Palestinian authorities must not encourage violence, and must arrest all terrorists they can; and Isreal must not react to every terrorist attack or rock-throwing mob by ending negotiations and/or blaming and attacking the Palestinian authority. The extremists must not be allowed to dictate events. Joint cooperative action by the two states could crack down on terrorists, with international help.
Second, remove US troops from Saudi Arabia. They once served the purpose of protecting that nation from attack by Saddam Hussein. That is no longer an imminent threat, so why are they there? Events have proved they are sitting ducks for terrorists. Saudi Arabia is a tyranny, and some powerful people there support terrorists against the USA. The Saudis are not reliable allies and we shouldn't support them or other despotic governments in the area.
Third, sanctions on Iraq must be removed, or changed so they don't harm the Iraqi people. The fanatics blame the US, rightly or wrongly, for the deaths of millions of Iraqis, mostly malnourished children. If we can help the Afghan people, we can help the Iraqi people. Sanctions will only work if they keep weapons out of Saddam's hands. If we can't design sanctions which will effectively do that, and only that, let's give up the ghost. They obviously have not worked if our goal was to oust Saddam, any more than they have worked in Cuba.
Fourth, switch to greater use of alternative energy here in the USA, and otherwise make ourselves independent of Middle East oil. Our presence is seen, rightly or wrongly, as supportive of repressive regimes in the area such as Saudi Arabia, because we need their oil. Let us wash our oily hands of the whole Mid-East oil business and get out.
Fifth, counter anti-American propaganda. Andy Rooney suggests that the government hire our skilled American ad agencies to foster good will towards the USA. Meanwhile, we need to counteract the influence of the terrorist training schools instituted by fanatics in Pakistan and other places, or try to shut them down. I hope some of the authorities in the region can help us with this. We must also walk our talk. Our continued and increased support of humanitarian aid and peace-making efforts in Afghanistan and the entire region is critical. Our war effort should not impede these aims. The USA and all nations need to help foster better economic conditions in Arab and Muslim countries.
Finally, let us look within ourselves for healing, and share it with the region. Our prayers have power, and the more peaceful we are within ourselves, the more effective we can be in making peace in the world. Let us monitor our thoughts. Let us also study and learn the lessons of 5000 years of history, so we can see the links and karmic ties between us and the people of the Middle East, and let us look to the future. We can revere the contributions which the brilliant people of the Mid-East region have made to our arts, sciences and religions. We can move away from the legacies we have inherited of war, hierarchy, religious bigotry, scientific narrowness, environmental destruction, and cycles of revenge which were started there, and move instead toward a new age of enlightenment, creative expression, ecology, mutual respect and peace, which can emerge from the crucible of our times and our history, and which in turn can inspire the peoples of the Middle East region and worldwide.
Original Letter:
The date of the attack: 9/11 - 9 + 1 + 1 = 11
Sept.11th is the 254th day of the year: 2 + 5 + 4 = 11
After September 11th there are 111 days left to the end of the year.
Twin Towers-standing side by side,looks like the number 11
The first plane to hit the towers was Flight 11
State of New York - The 11th State added to the Union
New York City - 11 Letters - Afghanistan - 11 Letters
The Pentagon - 11 Letters - Saudi Arabia - 11 Letters
Flight 11 - 92 on board - 9 + 2 = 11
Flight 77 - 65 on board - 6 + 5 = 11
Dave's response: Oh my God! How worried should I be?
There are 11 letters in the name "David Pawson!"
I'm going into hiding NOW. See you
in a few weeks. Wait a sec ...
just realized "YOU CAN'T HIDE" also has 11
letters! What am I gonna do? Help me!!!
The terrorists are after me!
ME! I can't believe it! Oh crap, there must be
someplace on the planet Earth I could hide but no .......
"PLANET EARTH" has 11 letters, too! Maybe
Nostradamus can help me. But dare I trust him?
There are 11 letters in "NOSTRADAMUS." I know,
the Red Cross can help. No they can't... 11
letters in "THE RED CROSS," can't trust them.
I would rely on self defense,but "SELF DEFENSE"
has 11 letters in it, too! Can someone help?
Anyone? If so, send me email. No, don't...
"SEND ME EMAIL" has 11 ....Will this never end?
I'm going insane! "GOING INSANE???"
Eleven letters Nooooooooooo!!!!!! I
guess I'll die alone, even though "I'LL DIE ALONE"
has 11 letters.....
Oh my God, I just realized that America is doomed!
Our Independence Day is July 4th ... 7/4 ... 7+4_!
MORE from an astrologer...
Uranus and Neptune are the two planets that represent the world destiny
of peoples and nations; both are in the sign of Aquarius these days (2001-02). Aquarius is the
11th sign of the zodiac.
Aquarius is the WATER BEARER -- 11 letters.
AQUARIAN AGE has 11 letters.
I used the opposing angle between Saturn and Pluto to forecast an
American war starting in Summer 2001. Saturn-Pluto has 11 letters.
Pluto is in SAGITTARIUS-- Sagittarius has 11 letters.
Come to think of it, "American war" has 11 letters.
EeeK! There's more: Saturn was in Gemini in 2001. The symbol for Gemini is
THE TWINS (Twin Towers). The symbol is written "II"
Sagittarius is the 9th sign of the zodiac; September is the 9th month (9-11)
There are three numbers in "9-11" and Gemini is the 3rd sign.
The symbol for Sagittarius is an arrow penetrating a line.
Put two 7s back to back (Flight 77) and you have an arrow.
I'm so glad our president is doing such a "good job" in handling this
crisis; at least I thought so until I realized, well...
GEORGE W. BUSH has 11 letters!
I knew there was a reason he was destined to be selected as our president...
E. Alan Meece
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